L-Atti tal-Inkjesta datata 19 ta' Novembru 2019, rigward skont it-Termini ta’ Referenza ta’ l- Inkjesta Pubblika dwar l- Assassinju ta’ Daphne Caruana Galizia.

Seduta miżmuma llum l-Erbgha 4 ta’ Novembru 2020, fis-2:00 p.m. fit- Tieni Sular, Awla 20, il-Qorti.

Xhud Karl Cini iben Joseph u Josephine nee` Grima, imwieled San Giljan u residenti l-Kappara bil-Malti u bil-gurament tieghu jghid :

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Spjegalek il-procedura li ser noperaw l-avukat? Jiena ser naghmillek id- domandi inti mintix tenut li twiegeb; inti tista’ tirrispondi u tghidli – naghzel li ma nwegibx.

Mela l-ewwel domanda li ser naghmillek hija : Inti qieghed taht investigazzjoni, jew Police Bail?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Lest li twiegeb xi domandi dwar ir-relazzjoni tieghek ma’ Keith Schembri, Konrad Mizzi u Joseph Muscat?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Lest li twiegeb domandi dwar l-involviment tieghek fl-Electrogas u fit- twettieq ta’ l-RFP dwar il-Power Station u l-generazzjoni ta’ l-energija?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Ser insemmilek kumpaniji; tista’ tindika jekk intix involut fihom forsi tramite Nexia BT jew xi kumpanija ohra u x’ tip ta’ negozji taghmel bihom?

Imhallef A Lofaro :

Ha nsemmulek il-kumpaniji l-ewwel.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Willerby Trade Incorporated, Meander Holding Limited, NGP Holding Limited, Mossack Fonseca Company Limited, B2A Bridge to Asia Limited, u BT International Limited.

Imhallef A Lofaro :

Issa rrispondi.

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

24. Ir-Rapport tal-FIAU li kien ippubblikat fil-media u li t-titolu tieghu huwa ‘Ir-rapport tal-FIAU li jikxef il-Korruzzjoni ta’ Keith Schembri mill-Bejgh tal- Passaporti’ inti qrajtu?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li Willerby Trade Incorporated wetqet bank transfers favur kont bankarju li jappartjeni lil Keith Schembri?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Huwa minnu li BT International Limited harget invoices ghal hlasijiet li jammontaw ghal one hundred sixty six thousand, eight hundred thirty one Euros u disghin centezmi (€166,831.90c) ghal servizzi rezi?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li minkejja li dawn l-invoices gew imqajma mill-BT International Limited izda thallset Willerby Trade Incorporated ghalihom?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li Willerby Trade Incoporated ma hijiex agent akkreditat taht l- Individual Investor Programme?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li dawn il-pagamenti saru bhala hlas ta’ referral fee ghaliex Willerby Trade Incoporated kienet ghaddiet xoghol li tirrigwarda l-IIP?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li Willerby Trade Incorporated ma hijiex shareholder ta’ Nexia BT Holdings Limited?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li Willerby Trade Incorporated ma hijiex dovuta dividends minn Nexia BT Holdings Limited jew minn BT International?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li kien hemm ftehim ma’ Keith Schembri sabiex dawn il-flus fl- ahhar jaghddu ghand kont bankarju tieghu fil-Pilatus Bank?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Skont rapport mahrug mill-FIAU u ppubblikat fil-media bit-titolu ‘Ir-Rapport tal-FIAU Dwar il-Pagamenti li ghaddew minn Keith Schembri lil Adrian Hillman’ Lester Holdings Group Limited hija ta’ Adrian Hillman u l-istess Hillman ta prokura lilek u lil Brian Tonna ta’ Nexia BT sabiex intom timmanigjaw din il-kumpanija. Dan tikkonfermah?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Din il-prokura kienet tiskadi fil-5 ta’ Lulju 2016. Din giet estiza?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Rezoluzzjoni tal-kumpanija Lester Holdings Group Limited tal-ewwel (1) ta’ Mejju 2015 jawtorizza lilek sabiex tiftah kont bankarju fil-Pilatus Bank liema kont jigi operat minn Adrian Hillman. Tikkonferma dan?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Dan ir-rapport jghid ukoll li Malmos Limited hija kumpanija ta’ Keith Schembri izda li Brian Tonna huwa firmatarju ghal Malmos Limited. Dan inti tikkonfermah?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li l-kontijiet bankarji ta’ Lester Holdings Group Limited ircevew flus minn ghand Kasco Limited?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Taf ghal xiex ghaddew dawn il-flus?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Meta inti fi Frar ta’ l-2013 mort il-Panama sabiex tiltaqa ma Mossack Fonseca, kont qieghed twettaq xoghol ghal kumpanija Nexia BT, jew BT International Limited jew ghal xi kumpanija tieghek jew li inti ghandek xi involviment fiha?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Din iz-zjara kienet fuq istruzzjonijiet jew biex tesegwixxi struzzjonijiet moghtija lilek f’ servizzi mitluba minn Keith Schembri u Konrad Mizzi?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li inti tajt servizzi lil Konrad Mizzi sabiex jiftah Rotura Trust fi New Zealand?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li inti tajt servizzi ghat-twaqqif ta’ Hearnville Incoporated?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li inti tajt servizzi sabiex Hearnville Incorporate tiftah kontijiet bankarji fid-Dubai?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li inti tlabt lil Mossack Fonseca sabiex tirrizervalek tliet kumpaniji u cioe` Egrant Incorporated, Hearnville Incorportated u Tillgate Incorportated?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li Egrant Incorporated giet registrata fit-8 ta’ Lulju 2013, Hearnville Incorporated fid-9 ta’ Lulju 2013 u Tillagate Incroporated fil-15 ta’ Lulju 2013?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li Hearnville Incorporated u Tillgate Incorporated saru l- kumpaniji ta’ Keith Schembri u Konrad Mizzi?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Allura li l-ultimate beneficial owner ta’ Tillgate Incorporated huwa Keith Schembri u ta’ Hearnville huwa Konrad Mizzi?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Dan ir-rapport jghid: “The communication shows attempts made by Nexia BT to conceal from the FIAU the fact that the companies belonging to Dr Konrad Mizzi and Mr Keith Schembri from the start as is indicted in the email between

Mr Daniel Leon and Mr Karl Cini on 7th of July 2015.” Inti taqbel ma’ din id-

dikjarazzjoni?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Permezz ta’ email tal-14 ta’ Marzu 2013 inti tlabt lil persuna minn Mossack Fonseca sabiex tghinek tiftah kumpanija fil-Panama u tifforma Trust. Din il- kumpanija u Trust sussegwentement jidher li saru ghal Konrad Mizzi. Id-data li fiha int ghamilt it-talba cioe` 14 ta’ Marzu 2013 kienet gurnata biss wara li Konrad Mizzi gie mahtur Ministru u hamest ijiem biss wara l-elezzjoni generali. Inti indikajt lil Mossack Fonseca li din l-istruttura kienet ghal Politically Exposed Person? Inti nfurmajt lil FIAU dwar il-fatt li PEP kien qieghed jistabbilixxi din l-istruttura? Konrad Mizzi kemm kien ilu li tak struzzjonijiet sabiex twaqqaflu din l-istuttura?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Fil-25 ta’ Marzu 2013 inti bghatt email ohra lil Mossack Fonseca fejn irriferejt ghal kumpanija u trust li kont tlabthom iwaqqfulek u ghidtilhom: “I hope all is well. Hope same with you and Luis. I presume the information and documents you sent me relate to the setup of the new company in Panama and for a Trust. We will prepare the requested information but the UBO will not to be Nexia BT. It will be an individual and I will speak to Louis on Skype to give him more details” Meta preferejt taghti l-informazzjoni li l-kumpanija u trust kienu ghal Konrad Mizzi bhala PEP u fuq Skype u mhux bil-miktub, dan ghamiltu biex tahbi dak li kien qieghed isir? Min tak istruzzjonijiet biex taghmel hekk?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Fit-23 ta’ Mejju 2013 Mossack Fonseca & Company (Malta) Ltd giet registrata f’Malta. Inti x’involviment kellek f’din il-kumpanija? Kont inti li gibt lil Mossack Fonseca l-firem ta’ Nexia jew BT International? Kemm kont ilek b’ kuntatt ma’ Mossack Fonseca?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Inti tlabt sabiex Torbridge Services Incorporated u Willerby Incorporated jifthu bank accounts fil-Panama. Tikkonfermah dan?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li Torbridge Services Incorporated giet trasferieta lil Chen Cheng?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Minn meta Chen Cheng sar klijent tieghek?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

X’ kien in-negozju ta’ Chen Cheng?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Il-vjagg tieghek f’ Shanghai li sehh fit-13 ta’ Novembru 2013 kien fuq inkarigu jew relatat ma’ nkarigu moghti lilek minn Konrad Mizzi?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Ir-rapport tal-FIAU jghid hekk: “16th May 2015 – It was at this point that Mr Karl Cini revealed to Mossack Fonseca & Company (New Zealand) that he had more than one client who was interested in setting up a New Zealand Trust. Once Mossack Fonseca & Company (New Zealand) realized that both clients were PEPs, which was by the 24th of May 2015, the process was slowed down with the need for more due diligence. This information was obtained through open source information since this information was not included in the documentation provided by Karl Cini.” Ghalfejn inti nqast li tinforma lil Mossack Fonseca li l-klijenti tieghek, Schembri u Mizzi kienu PEPs?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Kif tispjega li l-klijenti tieghek ma ridux lill-banek taghhom f’ Malta jkunu jafu b’ dawk l-istrutturi barranin li inti kont qieghed taghmel ghalihom?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Issa rigward 17 Black u Egrant. Hawnhekk ghandna email miktuba minnek li iggib id-data 23rd May 2015 : Hi Daniel, Some queries; “If we provide the professional reference letter do you also need to bank reference letters? It is not common to have more then one bank and my clients would like to avoid informing their banks here”. Il-kumpanija Egrant Incorporated tinzamm ghan- nom ta’ Politically Exposed Person?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Inti meta sirt taf bid-dikjarazzjoni bil-miktub ta’ Keith Schembri li l- kumpanija li inti kont waqqaftlu fil-Panama kellha tircievi flus minghand 17 Black?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Nghid sew li din l-informazzjoni inti kont tafha meta Nexia BT giet inkarigata minn Keith Schembri sabiex tiftahlu kont bankarju?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Inti kont taf min kien is-sid ta’ 17 Black?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Inti kont taf x’ kien ser jaghti lok ghat-trasferiment ta’ flus minn 17 Black ghal Keith Schembri?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li Keith Schembri introducik ma’ Lalit Modi sabiex tipprocessalu l-applikazzjoni tieghu ghal passaport?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tikkonferma li meta kont qieghed taghmel dan inti kont taf li Lalit Modi kien imfittex ghal reati ta’ korruzzjoni u hasil ta’ flus u li l-passaport Indjan tieghu kien gie irtirat mill-gvern tal-India?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Ghandkom xi domandi intom?

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Jekk nista’ naghmel ftit domandi dwar ir-relazzjoni tax-xhud ma’ Keith Schembri, Konrad Mizzi u Joseph Muscat.

Imhallef A Lofaro :

Iva.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

X’ inhi r-relazzjoni tieghek ma’ Keith Schembri, jekk kontux tafu lil xulxin qabel l-elezzjoni tas-sena 2013?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Ghanda nifhmu li r-relazzjoni taghkom tmur oltre dik ta’ konsulent u klijent?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Min introduciek ma’ Keith Schembri?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Inti jew Brian Tonna kellkom l-ewwel kuntatt ma’ Keith Schembri?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Schembri huwa wkoll klijent tieghek fir-rigward ta’ dawk il-kumpaniji msemmija fil-Panama Papers. Qabel ma nghataw dawn is-servizzi, Schembri kien diga` klijent tieghek ghal affarijiet ohra?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Ghandek xi stqarrija x’ taghmel ghal fatt li waqt li Schembri kien klijent tad- ditti li huma tieghek jew li inti tahdem maghhom dawk l-istess ditti inghataw diversi direct orders mill-gvern?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

X’ kienet ir-relazzjoni tieghek ma’ Konrad Mizzi? Kont tafu qabel l-elezzjoni ta’ l-2013?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Mizzi huwa wkoll klijent tieghek fir-rigward ta’ dawk il-kumpanija msemmija fil-Panama Papers. Qabel ma nghataw dawn is-servizzi Mizzi kien diga` klijent tieghek?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Sakemm Mizzi kien ghadu membru tal-gvern kien jirriferilek nies ghas- servizzi tieghek?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Ghandek xi stqarrija x’ taghmel ghal fatt li waqt li Mizzi kien klijent tad-ditti li huma tieghek jew li inti tahdem maghhom dawk l-istess ditti inghataw diversi direct orders mill-Ministru Mizzi jew entitajiet li huwa kien imexxi?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Schembri u Mizzi fir-rigward ta’ l-istrutturi indikati fil-Panama Papers, lilek jew lil Nexia BT inkarigawkom flimkien jew b’ mod separat?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Lil Joseph Muscat kont tafu qabel is-sena 2013? Kont konsulent tieghu jew kien klijent tieghek?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Fir-rigward ta’ l-involviment tieghek fil-process ta’ l-Electrogas u tal- PowerStation u allura l-generazzjoni ta’ l-eletriku, x’ kien l-involviment tieghek u tas-socjeta` Nexia BT.

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Tikkonferma li inti wiehed mill-partners f’ Nexia BT?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Nexia BT wettqet cost benefit analyses fid-9 ta’ Awwissu 2013 fl-istadju ta’ l- RFP dwar il-PowerStation, min inkarigak biex twettaq dan ix-xoghol?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Fi stadju iehor u cioe` fi stage 3 Evaluation Committee fl-istess RFP inti kont persuna rapprezentanti minn Nexia BT kienet mahtura wkoll bhala commercial expert biex isservi bhala membru ta’ dan il-kumitat. Din il-pesuna hija ndikata bhala l-Head Advisory Services ta’ Nexia BT, dan tikkonfermah?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Kif inghata dan l-inkarigu?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Fl-istage 4 Evaluation Committee ta’ l-istess RFP it-team leader kien il- managing partner ta’ Nexia BT. Inti il-managing partner ta’ Nexia BT?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Dan l-inkarigu kif inghata?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Fl-istess kumitat kien hemm zewg membri ohra bhala finance executives li wkoll kienu impjegati ta’ Nexia BT. Il-hatra taghhom kif u minn min saret?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

X’ tikkumenta dwar li waqt li inti u jew kollegi tieghek minn Nexia BT kontu fuq l-istage 4 Evaluation Committee f’ dan l-RFP Nexia BT kienet qed tigi mahtura awditru ta’ GEM Holdings Ltd.

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Nexia BT ghadha awditru ta’ GEM Holdings Ltd?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Lil dawn it-tliet diretturi ta’ GEM Holdings Ltd u cioe` Yorgen Fenech, Mark Gasan u Paul Apap Blogna meta sirt tafhom?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Kull wiehed minnhom kien klijent tieghek qabel ma’ inti gejt mahtur awditur ta’ GEM Holdings Ltd?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Inti kont konsulent taghhom ghat-thejjija ta’ proposta taghhom f’ dan l-RFP?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Kienu klijenti tieghek waqt li Nexia jew inti kontu qed isservu fuq l- Evaluation Committee at stage 3 u stage 4 ta’ l-RFP?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Therese Comodini Cachia :

Ma ghandix iktar domandi.

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Dr Azzopardi?

Dr Jason Azzopardi :

Domanda wahda biss jekk joghgbok.

Imhallef A Lofaro :

Iva.

Dr Jason Azzopardi :

Sur Cini, tichad illi l-kumpanija Egrant il-UBO taghha kellha tkun Mrs Michelle Muscat?

Ix-Xhud :

Naghzel li ma nirrispondix.

Dr Jason Azzopardi :

Grazzi.

Imhallef A Lofaro :

Daqshekk mix-xhud?

Chairman Imhallef M Mallia :

Tista’ tinsel.

Din hija s-sustanza tax-xhieda ta’ Karl Cini kif giet dettata minnu stess fil- prezenza ta’ l-istess xhud.

Niddikjara li traskrivejt bl-ahjar hila tieghi x-xhieda ta’ l-istess xhud.

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