Xhieda ta’ Monique Agius – 12 ta’ Frar 2020
Fl-Atti tal-Inkjesta datata 19 ta' Novembru 2019, rigward skont it- Termini ta’ Referenza ta’ l-Inkjesta Pubblika dwar l-Assassinju ta’ Daphne Caruana Galizia.
Seduta miżmuma llum l-Erbgha 12 ta’ Frar, 2020.
Monique Agius, bint Philip u Carmen nee’ Agius, imwielda Pieta u residenti Haz Zebbug, flimkien ma’ Miguela Xuereb, bint Salvu u Marlene nee’ Gomez, imwielda Rabat Ghawdex u residenti Birkirkara bil-Malti bil-gurament jghidu:
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia: Mela ara Monique, ha nistaqsik zewg (2) tipi ta’ kwistjonijiet ftit differenti. Fuq l-incident li fih kontu nvoluti ser inhallih ghall-ahhar.
Monique Agius: Ok.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia: It-tnejn (2) li intom ahjar tghidu x’inhu xogholkom u ma min tahdmu u jekk ghandkom il-press card f’isimkom. Tibda Monique.
Monique Agius: Nahdem bhala gurnalista ma’ newsbook.com.mt. Imh. A. Lofaro : Newsbook.
Imh. M. Mallia : Newsbook ok. U Miss Xuereb? Miguela Xuereb: Jiena photo journalist ma’ newsbook ukoll. Imh. M. Mallia : Ok.
Imh. A. Lofaro : Newsbook.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia: Issa, ghadni kif inghtajt l-istruzzjoni li qabel ma tirrispondu tghidu isimkom biex it-transcript ikun jista’ jidentifika min intom. Ok? Mela, fix-xoghol taghkom bhala gurnalisti, tistghu tispjegawlna u tghidulna jekk iltqajtux ma’ xi incidenti ta’ harassment, vittimizazzjoni, xi agir hazin fil- konfront taghkom? L-esperjenza taghkom.
Monique Agius: Kellna xi ftit incidenti apparti dan l-ahhar meta kien hemm .
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Dr. T. Comodini Cachia: Monique, inti tippreferi bl-Ingliz? Monique Agius : It is a mix imma naghmilha bil-Malti.
Imh. A. Lofaro : Mela, Monique qieghda tixhed.
Monique Agius : Kien hemm numru ta’ incidenti dan l-ahhar meta kien hemm il-protesti, meta kien hemm iktar qisu tensjoni.
Imh. A. Lofaro : Jigifieri f’Novembru – ghall-habta ta’ Novembru, Dicembru elfejn u dstatax (2019).
Monique Agius : Ezatt. Ezatt. Imh. A. Lofaro : Hux hekk?
Monique Agius : Pero’ kien hemm incident iehor fil-konfront tieghu meta darba minnhom waqt l-elezzjoni kont qieghda press conference u kien hemm il-Prim Ministru . . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : Ta’ l-elfejn u sbatax (2017)? Monique Agius : An MEP elections, so . . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : Aaa, ta’ l-MEPs. Ok.
Monique Agius : Kien hemm press conference fejn konna parti media, ahna u TVM u kien hemm Muscat ma’ zewg (2) membri parlamentari – ma nistax niftakar min kien hemm ezatt. U jiena staqsejtu speci inti dejjem ghidt li ha tkun qed tirrizenja. Meta ha tkun din ir-rizenja tieghek? U dan kien qabad, mexa lejja, qabadni minn spallti hekk u dawwarni u telaq. Qabel qalli: nista’ nghidlek fi zmien tletin (30) sekonda ha nitlaq minn hawn hekk. U gie . . . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : U dawrek hu jigifieri?
Monique Agius : Ehe. U telaq. So actually il-filmat konna ppublikajnieh and you can see that my phone had gone like this. Speci qed niffilmja lilu . . . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : Ok. Ehe, ehe.
Monique Agius : Ghax ovvjament qabadni minn idi u dawwarni u telaq. Imh. A. Lofaro : Ehe.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia: Kien hemm incidenti li inti rrapurtajthom lill-pulizija jew lil xi awtorita’ ohra?
Monique Agius : Ta’ Kastilja. Meta kienu zammewna Kastilja wara press conference twenty ninth (29), twenty ninth (29) ehe, filghodu. Novembru.
Imh. A. Lofaro : Novembru kien ehe.
Monique Agius : U xi ftit jiem wara – ma niftakarx ezatt, nahseb it-Tnejn jew it- Tlieta ta’ wara, le, it-Tnejn jew it-Tlieta ghax kien hemm il- Parlament, meta kien hemm Parlament u meta kienu inghalqu d-deputati gewwa ghax kien hemm kulhadd, il- protesti eccetera, kien hemm tug – ma nafx x’tghidlu, wiehed minn dawn li jkun hemm mal-Ministri u kien actually gie ghalija biex nieqaf nistaqsi lil . . . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : X’qallek?
Monique Agius : Jiena kont qed nitsaqsi – huma ovvjament ma jwiegbux. Dakinhar, meta kienu ghalqu, meta kien hemm – il-pulizija ghamlu l-barriers mal-parlament kollu u n-nies ma setghux ikunu flimkien so ingabru ma’ kull barrier. At one point, grupp ta’ membri parlamentari – ahna konna nkunu confined wara barrier fejn bieb tal-genb minn fejn jidhlu d- deputati tal-gvern u at one point hareg grupp parlamentari u dawn iddecidew li jinzlu Ordinance Street fejn jghajtulu – ghall-pulizija u ghalina kienu no mans land. U dan kien hemm distanzi – I mean mir-ritratti tistghu taraw id-distanzi. U dawn iddecidew li jinzlu minn hemm hekk u jinzlu ghan- naha fejn kien hemm l-attivisti. It was – I would – I described it in fatti, dak kien il-punt ghalfejn tlaqna minn wara l-barriers ahna biex niffilmjaw x’inhu jigri, ghax it was a clear act of provocation. Fis-sens jekk inti ghandek l- attivisti kollha qeghdin hemm hekk, kien zmien fejn kienu qeghdin il-hin kollu insulti u whatever, whatever, u dawn iddecidew jinzlu Ordinance Street. U ahna grejna warajjhom – l-media kollha li kien hemm, nehhejna l-barrier u grejna warajjhom u ahna u mexjin lura, I tried asking a question to Clint Camilleri li issa Ministru, u kien hareg dan ix-xih, wiehed xih, li gie ghalija u beda’ like ha jimbuttani . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : Jimbuttak?
Monique Agius : Ezatt. Imbuttani. Kellu jidhol Matthew fiha, Agius, x’hin induna x’inhu jigri u dan.
Imh. A. Lofaro : Jigifieri mbaghad kont irrapurtajtu dak l-incident inti?
Monique Agius : It-tnejn (2) li huma rrapurtajthom. Imh. A. Lofaro : It-tnejn (2) li huma.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Mela, ha naqbad fuq l-ahhar rapport ghax l-incident l- ewwel wiehed tas- sebgha u ghoxrin (27) ta’ Novembru ha nitolbok taghti izjed dettalji imma l-ahhar wiehed . . .
Monique Agius : Liema wiehed?
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Tat-twenty nine (29). Imma l-ahhar incident, inti prezentajt rapport lill-pulizija. Wara li gie pprezentat dak ir- rapport, il-pulizija nvestigaw? Tressaq xi hadd il-Qorti? Hemm konkluzjoni?
Monique Agius : Jiena rnexxieli nidentifika min hu . . . Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Tista’ taqleb Malti u Ingliz kif trid. Imh. A. Lofaro : Jigifieri kellek ismu u kunjomu.
Monique Agius : Sirt naf min hu. Imh. A. Lofaro : Ok.
Monique Agius : Imma l-pulizija ghadhom ma kellmunix fuqu. Fuq dak ir- rapport.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : U inti nfurmajthom lill-pulizija min hu dan il-persuna? Monique Agius : No. But I did have time to follow up because of third (3)
November exams . . .
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Ok. U l-pulizija ma kellmux fuqha. Monique Agius : No.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : All right. Mela, jekk nista’ naqleb ghal Miguela u tirrispondi l-istess domanda, jigifieri incidenti ta’ harassment jew ta’ fastidju li soffrejt inti personali.
Miguela Xuereb : Ok.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : U jekk ghamiltx rapporti fuqhom.
Miguela Xuereb : All right. Jiena l-unika harassment li kelli sa issa hu dan l- incident tat-twenty eight (28) – twenty ninth (29) November meta sakkruna Kastilja and that is the only report I did to the police.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Ok. Mela, ha nibda fuq dan l-incident tat-twenty eight (28), twenty nine (29) November. Mela, spejali ghalfejn qed nghidu twenty eight (28) u twenty nine (29) November.
Miguela Xuereb : Ok.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : U mbaghad spjegali kif sibtu ruhkom, x’kien l-iskop taghkom li tkunu f’Kastilja, jekk kienetx fuq stedina, jekk qbadtux u dhaltu intom, x’gara hemm gew u spjegali kif – sakemm hrigtu.
Miguela Xuereb : Mela, qed nghid twenty eight (28) twenty nine (29) ghax jiena kont – wasalt Kastilja hekk ghas-sebgha u kwart (7:15) ta’ filghaxija on the twenty eight (28). Kien hemm il- gurnalisti ‘l ohrajn, kien hemm Monique ukoll, kienet ilha hemm nahseb minn nofsnhar (12:00) ta’ dik il-gurnata u konna qed nistennew biex naraw forsi jkun hemm xi hadd u nkunu nistghu nistaqsu l-mistoqsijiet, id-domandi li ghandna. Ftit wara s-sebgha u nofs (07:30) bdew gejjin il- Ministri u sirna nafu li kien ha jkun hemm xi laqgha tal- kabinett. Jigifieri wara mbaghad ghal kull Ministru li beda – li bdew dehlin ghal go Kastilja, dejjem immorru hemm hekk biex nistaqsu d-domandi ghalfejn incemplu li ha jkun hawn laqgha tal-kabinett dan il-hin. Insomma. Sa kemm dahlu kull Ministru bqajna barra nistennew. Ftit wara bdew gejjin l-attivisti u iktar tard on the twenty eight (28), jigifieri hekk forsi ghall-ghaxra (10:00), l-ghaxra u nofs (10:30) bdew jingabru iktar pulizija u bdew – u gabu xeba barriers. U ghamlu l-barriers madwar l-attivisti halli ma jersqux iktar qrib lejn Kastilja u ghamlu l-barriers lejn il-gurnalisti wkoll halli nkunu on the side mat-tarag ta’ l-entrance ta’ Kastilja halli jekk ikunu hergin il-Ministri jew il-Prim Ministru Joseph Muscat ma nkunux nistghu probabbli noqghodu quddiemhom ezatt u jkunu jistghu jidhlu normali. Wara li ghamlu l-barriers ma gara xejn, jigifieri bqajna nistennew barra xorta. It started getting late – twelve am – twenty ninth (29) November now – xorta ma gara xejn, bqajna nistennew barra u mbaghad qalulna li ha jkollna konferenza aktar tard – early in the morning. Jigifieri wara hekk ghas- saghtejn (02:00), s-saghtejn u nofs (02:30) forsi ta’ filghodu, fit-twenty ninth (29), ghaddejna minn – dhalna go Kastilja mill-bieb tal-genb, jigifieri mhux minn ta’ quddiem . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : Ghax hallewkom tidhlu. Hallewkom tidhlu.
Miguela Xuereb : Yes, imma we only could enter with our press card. Jekk ma nurux il-press card ma kienux ha jhalluna nidhlu.
Imh. A. Lofaro : Ehe.
Miguela Xuereb : Imbaghad dhalna gol-konferenza, fejn kien hemm il- gurnalisti ‘l ohrajn, dahlu maghna wkoll, il-Prim Ministru back then Joseph Muscat ghamel il-konferenza dwar il- pardon ta’ Yorgen Fenech . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : Le, mhux ta’ Yorgen Fenech. Miguela Xuereb : Ta’ min?
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Ta’ Melvin Theuma. Imh. A. Lofaro : Melvin Theuma.
Miguela Xuereb : Ta’ Melvin sorry. U hu rrisponda xi domandi ta’ uhud mill- gurnalisti – minghalija rrisponda three (3) questions only but obviously we had a lot more questions to ask but kemm qalilna grazzi u hareg ‘il barra. Hargu l-Ministri wkoll. Kwazi hareg kulhadd hlief il-gurnalisti. U ahna u nohorgu ghalqulna l-bieb dawn in-nies ma nafux min huma, qatt – jien qatt ma rajthom f’hajti jigifieri – we have no idea who they were. Monique kienet qieghda tiehu live jigifieri forsi jekk ha ssaqsuha tistghu – kienet qieghda tiehu live, jien kont qed niffilmja bil-kamera tieghi, bil-mobile propja ghax ghidt forsi nkun nista’ nibaghtu iktar malajr jekk niehdu bil- mobile. Kont qed niffilmja, kien hemm Paul Caruana Galizia, kien qed jiffilmja wkoll minghalija. Imbaghad minn hemm hekk indunajna li ma kienux ha jhalluna nohrogu minn dik il- kamra. Bdejna nistaqsu minn huma, ma kienux – they weren’t responsive. Ma kienux qed jaghtu kasna, just baqghu hemm hekk mal-bieb hekk. They were just staring at us and not replying to who they were or whatever. U wara ftit, forsi seven (7) minutes, eight (8) minutes, hallewna nohorgu imma at this point xorta ma konniex nafu min kienu dawn in-nies u ghalfejn hallewna gewwa minflok naqbdu u nohorgu bhal ma hareg kwazi kulhadd. U inzilna ‘l isfel, hringa minn Kastilja.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Mela, qalulkom ghalfejn ma tistghux tohorgu mill- kamra? U staqsejtu biex tohorgu mill-kamra?
Miguela Xuereb : Iva staqsejna biex nohorgu mill-kamra imma ma qalulniex ghalfejn hallewna hemm gew.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Meta ghidtli: ma stajniex nohorgu mill-kamra, tista’ tispjegali b’liema mod ma thallejtux tohorgu mill-kamra?
Miguela Xuereb : Paul kien qed jipprova jipprova jiftah il-bieb imma I think it was locked. So we couldn’t go out.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Ok. U din kienet l-ewwel press conference li inti attendejt bhala gurnalista?
Miguela Xuereb : Le, ma kienetx l-ewwel press conference.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : U hija xi haga li tigri fil-press conferences illi wara l- press conference il-gurnalisti jinghalqu f’kamra, jigu maghluqa f’kamra u mbaghad jinhargu wara?
Miguela Xuereb : Le, din qatt ma grat. Kemm ilni mmur press conferences this never happened. And it shouldn’t happen.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Inti ghamilt rapport f’dan ir-rigward? Miguela Xuereb : Yes.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Lil min? Miguela Xuereb : Lill-pulizija.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : U x’sar minnu? Bhala follow up. Miguela Xuereb : I have no updates.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : U l-persuni li ghidtilna li zammewkhom f’Kastilja, ghidtilna li dakinhar ma kontux tafu min huma. Illum identifikajt min huma?
Miguela Xuereb : Le.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Le. Ok. Monique? Imh. A. Lofaro : Issa Monique.
Monique Agius : Ghandi l-filmat.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Ok. Nifhem ukoll illi inti kont qieghda f’din il-kamra mal-gurnalisti. Jekk tista’ tirrakkonta l-esperjenza tieghek ta’ dan l-incident waqt li forsi nara jirnexxilniex – huwa l- unika file li hemm fuq id-disk jew le?
Monique Agius : Huwa l-unika file ghax . . . . . Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : L-unika file.
Monique Agius : Ehe, ghax ghadni kif xtrajtha. Jigifieri dik tistghu zzommuha. Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Nistghu nzommuha.
Monique Agius : Jien kont hemm qabel. Dakinhar kont hemm f’xi nofsinhar (12:00).
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Forsi tista’ tibda tispjega sakemm . . . .
Monique Agius : Jiena kont hemm f’xi nofs inhar (12:00), in-nofs siegha (12:30) ghax kienu baghtuni biex nistenna lil Muscat johrog. Ghax dakinhar, jekk niftakar sewwa kien hemm Keith Schembri li kien iddahhal biex – ghal questioning jew kien arrestat. One of the things because then it was the thing which led to activists coming out, people coming out in the evening to protest. Ovvjament ma kien hemm l-ebda moviment, hadd ma dahal, hadd ma hareg. Filghaxija, x’hin bdew jingabru n-nies at one point kienu ghamlu l-barriers imma hin minnhom, jiena staqsejt pulizija tal-belt biex jaghmel barrier bejn – fin-no man’s land dejjem ikun hemm din in-no man’s land konna qeghdin nispiccaw fil-protesti, fejn kien ikun hemm il-gurnalisti fuq it-tarag, fuq nofs tarag, attivisti hawn hekk u hawn hekk hadd. U kien hemm xeba tugs iduru fin-nofs. U jiena kont mort fuq pulizija u ghidltu: jekk ha zzommni – l-ewwel kont staqsejt jekk nistax ma naghtix kaz tal-barrier – I actually asked a lawyer, imbaghad qaluli ghax tkun qed tikser police orders. U mbaghad mort nistaqsi lill-pulizija u ghidltu: jekk jien lili ha titfani wara barrier, dak l-imbarazz – ghat-tugs, itfghu wara barrier. U kienu tefghuhom in-naha ta’ St. James Cavallier. U mbaghad insomma – I mean it was tense in the evening specjalment lejn il-habta tas-saghtejn (02:00) x’hin konna ha mmorru ghal press conference u l-pulizija kienu nsew jaghmlu l-barriers fuq in-naha tal-genb. Allura x’hin ahna nzilna ghall-press conference, ghax the word spread that there is a press conference, also the activists came. And there was a point where we were there waiting outside the door fuq in-naha tad-DOI u konna qeghdin nistennew barra pero’ ma kienux ha jdahhluna ghax kien hemm l-attivisti
vicin taghna. Issa xi hadd mill-gurnalisti kien qieghed fuq it- telephone ma xi hadd ghall-habta tat-tlieta ta’ filghodu (03:00) and I over heard him saying: hawn Matthew Caruana Galizia qed jipprova jidhol maghna. U mbaghad kien hemm l-issue kollha tal-pulizija jew is-suldati – ma stajtx nara ghax kien hemm hafna nies quddiemi illi beda jghajjat: biex tidhlu hawn gew ghandkom bzonn il-press cards. Imbaghad qamet l-issue – fuq dan il-video mhux qieghda, I do not know if I filmed it because it was all very confusing, fejn Matthew beda jghidilhom you are asking for the press card because you know I am here. U kienu ma hallewx lil Matthew jidhol gewwa. Tlajna ghall- press conference u kull ma hadu mistoqsijiet kienu tlieta (3) jew erbgha (4) – three (3) or four (4) u mbaghad x’hin ippakkjajna ndunajna li qeghdin maghluqin gewwa. I was filming, I was doing a live. Dak il-filmat huwa l-live li hareg fuq newsbook.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : U huwa l-filming li hadt int?
Monique Agius : Iva. I was doing the live, we were asking them – Paul was asking them who are you? I was asking them fuq liema bazi legali qeghdin izzommuna hawn gew? I asked the fellow journalists to call the police to come and bring us out because they couldn’t keep us in there. I asked them who they are u mbaghad at one point jinfetah il-bieb. U wara l- bieb – hin minnhom infetah il-bieb, hallew lil xi hadd johrog barra imma regghu ghalquwulna mill-ewwel. Jidher fil- filmat. U mbaghad at one point jinfetah il-bieb u nsibu lil Matthew Carbone. Dan kien ha over l-OPM communications wara li kien telaq Kurt Farrugia. And we were screaming litteralment at Matthew Carbone’s face, min huma dawn in- nies, ma min hallejtuna, eccetera. Matthew Carbone ma wiegeb xejn. Naraw lill- Ministri ghaddejjin and we just kept screaming our questions u iktar gurnalisti li kienu qeghdin speci jghidulhom min kienu, ghalfejn ma hallejtuniex nistaqsu, speci dakinhar Evarist Bartolo ma kienx qieghed
prezenti ghal press conference and it was a news worthy question. Kieku hallewna nistaqsu ghalfejn ma hemmx Evarist maghhom. Ahna u nezlin it-tarag jitla’ Nigel who is also in the OPM and I was like: Nigel – I know him back from university, my first course, and I was like: Nigel, who are those people inside with us and he wouldn’t reply. And he is like: jekk jghogobkom. And showing us the door.
Imh. V. Said Pullicino : U ghadkom sallum ma tafux min huma dawn?
Monique Agius : Le, they actually – wara li hareg il-filmat, in-nies identifikawhom.
Imh. V. Said Pullicino : Identifikati.
Monique Agius : Yes, hemm nies bhal Mark Gauci if I remember correctly, Ronnie Vella, eccetera, eccetera.
Imh. V. Said Pullicino : They are employees of the OPM dawn?
Monique Agius : Naf li hemm wiehed minnhom zgur kien – I never verified the information, so it is like hearsay but someone had told me that this person was employed with a government agence, ma’ Spazju Krejjativ jew St. James bhala driver, meta dawn ma ghandhomx karozza. Wiehed minn dawk. Imma I never got to actually verify. And then they asked him to do other things.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Ok. Jigifieri n-nies li identifikajtu, apparti dawk it- tnejn (2) li semmejt, dawk it-tlieta (3) li semmejt, hemm ismijiet ohra? U jekk identifikajthom jew ma identifikajtuhomx, pero’ sirtu tafu min kien inkarighom jew x’ufficcju jew x’kariga ghandhom?
Monique Agius : No. I mean we do not know the exact details of what they were doing there that night. It was more of a public exercise. There is a twitter feed, Manuel Delia kien ghamel xi haga fuqha. They like, this is that person, tipo Facebook post u qablu min huma n-nies imma . . . .
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : U ghamilt – ipprezentajt rapport fuq dan l-incident? Monique Agius : Iva.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Lil min u x’gara minnu?
Monique Agius : Ghamilt rapport mal-pulizija, kont bghattilhom il-video wetransfer, xi gimghatejn ilu cempluli – forsi ma tirrapurtawiex din il-bicca – imma gimghatejn ilu cempluli ghax marru jifthu l-wetransfer.
Imh. M. Mallia : Ghaliex?
Monique Agius : Ghax marru jifthu l-wetransfer link u kien skada.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Kien skada. Minn Novembru tiftah wetransfer link issa mhux ikun skada!
Monique Agius : So it was . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : Seven (7) days biss idum?
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Mela, tista’ tispjega l-wetransfer x’inhi?
Monique Agius : Meta jkollok ammont ta’ gigabytes or whatever, biex tibghat video f’dokumenti tista’ tuza din il-website online biex tibaghtu. U dan jaghtik sebat (7) ijiem biex tnizzel id- dokument. Issa dawn meta bghattulhom f’Novembru ma nizzluhx mill-ewwel. Imma but to be fair with the police, when I had gone out of Castille, kont infqajt nibdi ma Victor
– is-Supretendent tal-Belt, ikun dejjem fil-protesti, jew is- Supretendent jew . . .
Dr. Jason Azzopardi: . . . (speaking off microphone).
Monique Agius : Tan-nuccali, twil. Wiehed mill-pulizija. And he was like, rapport jghodd ghax verbali pero’ he looked out for me in all the protests making sure that I actually went to the police station to file a report. And I had shown the video to the police, to one of the police who was there, and I am like, dawn taf min huma, dawn il-pulizija? And he was like: dawn kif telghu hemm fuq?
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Jigifieri l-pulizija li qalulek dawn kif telghu hemm fuq, inti taf min huma? Qed nistaqsik ghaliex jista’ jkun li ahna jkollna bzonnhom biex jidentifikawlna min huma dawn il- persuni.
Monique Agius : Ma niftakarx. I mean wara li hrigna minn Kastilja, the whole event is very traumatic. Fis-sens is-soltu meta mmur press conference Kastilja jitfghuna l-barra mill-ewwel. So you do not get to ask questions. Like thank you and good bye. Out.
So the whole event is very state violence phycoligically kind of thing. I can’t want the video. That is why I was like – . . . .
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Ok.
Imh. V. Said Pullicino : Il-video car hafna jigifieri. Imh. M. Mallia : Il-video car.
Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Hu carissimu imma ridt . . .
Imh. A. Lofaro : Jigifieri ghadek qisek taht trauma hux?
Imh. M. Mallia : Almenu parti minnu naf niftakar li rajtu fuq it-television jien. Dr. T. Comodini Cachia : Ezattament. Jien ma ghandix izjed domandi.
Imh. A. Lofaro : Nirringrazzjawkom. Thank you.